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Deb Price The Detroit News WASHINGTON U.S. Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan said Sunday that a mail in caucus in which Michigan Democrats vote again needs to be considered to settle a party dispute so that the! state s delegates are seated at the national convention in August. The one possibility would be some kind of mail in caucus Levin said on ABC s This Week hosted by George Stephanopoulos. That s being explored added Levin who did not endorse the idea outright. Key Michigan players trying to resolve the dispute with the national Democratic Party talked with experts in mail in voting over the weekend according to a knowledgeable source. Advertisement But red flags were quickly raised by skeptics in Michigan who questioned whether it would favor Hillary Rodham Clinton and be possible to pull off. Florida appears to be moving toward a mail in vote with advocates such as Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson a Clinton supporter. Both Barack Obama and Hillary have much invested to get this thing right Nelson said on Face the Nation. Because if Michigan and Florida are not seated it is going to be monumentally consequential he added in an apparent reference to the possibility of the Democrats losing the White House in the fallout. Democratic National Committee! Chairman Howard Dean noted the stakes as well in an appearance on Face the Nation. When these states come before us with a proposal we are going to go to both campaigns and work with them he said. They are going to have to accept these because we need all of their followers. We can t have half the Democratic Party walk out thinking there was some deal cooked and that s why their person didn t win. Dean went out of his way to praise mail in voting calling it a very good process. Cost of redos an issue The party dispute was on full display on the top Sunday talk shows. Gov. Edward Rendell D Pa. said on Meet the Press that he and Gov. Jon Corzine D N.J. are willing to work to raise million to help pay the cost of redos in Florida and Michigan. And given all the money that the Obama campaign and the Clinton campaign are spending they can dig in and their supporters can dig in to their pockets and help the states of Michigan and Florida have a revote Rendell said. Levin who is ! neutral in the race estimated that a mail in caucus would cost a couple million dollars. On Friday he all but rejected the idea being floated then of an on site firehouse primary. He said it would be too costly about million and impractical. But Michigan state Sen. Tupac Hunter D Detroit co chairman of the Barack Obama campaign in the state objected to mail in voting. I think she s Clinton fishing for delegates said Hunter who wants Michigan s disputed delegates to be divided equally between Obama and Clinton. Why this sudden push for a new vote for Michigan and Florida It plays to the favor of Hillary Clinton. I find it suspect. The epic dispute followed decisions by Michigan and Florida to break party rules and hold early primaries in January. Clinton won both contests but Obama s name wasn t on the Michigan ballot and neither candidate campaigned in the state. Michigan and Florida delegates won t be seated unless a deal is reached either soon by the states and the candidates or later by the convention s credentials committee. Delay sour fee! lings and the appearance of disarray could ultimately hurt Democrats chances of winning against Republican Sen. John McCain in November. Hunter predicted if the mail in option became the consensus Obama wouldn t stand in the way and that he would do very well in Michigan. Clinton s campaign said Friday she is open to a rematch. Michigan state Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer said Levin s estimate for a mail in vote is way too low. Michigan has never done a full blown mail in before Brewer said. Michigan offered mail in voting in and . About percent of votes in came in by mail he said. Now you would be talking about millions of votes by mail not thousands Brewer said of what he called a logistical nightmare. Such a possibility would be easier in Florida he said because voters register as Democrats or Republicans. But Michigan doesn t have such party ID. Brewer said the questions raised are Would people apply for mail in ballots as done in the past or would all million r! egistered voters be sent ballots How would you screen out voters who cast ballots in the Republican primary on Jan. On short notice how could you ensure people who move get their ballots Or that poor people either without addresses or money for a stamp are able to vote States study their options Dean put responsibility to solve the issue with Michigan and Florida but he talked at length about mail in elections. He noted that Oregon does its elections by mail in vote. And he noted redos aren t unprecedented Delaware found itself in a similar bind in and needed to redo its election Dean pointed out. Dean said it will be a while before the dispute is settled adding that the earliest a deal could be reached would likely be after the primary in Pennsylvania on April . On Fox News Sunday Democratic National Committee member Debbie Dingell of Michigan said unnamed outsiders have offered to help raise the money for a redo in Michigan. We ve heard offers from people outside of the state. And we would welcome those people showing us how we could raise m! oney for some alternative. The resources are not there inside the state. So people who have offered to help raise the money we welcome hearing from them to help us finance whatever option she said. Florida s Nelson said the state Democratic Party could raise million needed for a mail in. The DNC won t pay for either state to do a mulligan primary. And leading Michigan Democrats all say taxpayers won t be asked to pay for a second round of voting. Levin said for a mail in to work it would need to be practical fair affordable. He acknowledged some real problems with a mail in vote. Not just cost but the security issue. How do you make sure hundreds of thousands perhaps a million or more ballots can be properly counted and duplicate ballots can be avoided You can reach Deb Price at dpricedetnews.com . Article Tools Print Email Comment In the Blogs. Daniel Howes Blog Daniel Howes For guys who steer long aluminum tubes through the sky at astonishing speed the pilots at Northwest! and Delta airlines are taking their sweet time trying to reach a deal Continued Raging Bullard George Bullard Talk shows full of chatter today about a Michigan and Florida do over primary with Howard Dean on CBS Face the Nation wanting to seat the delegates from the two Continued Going Home Michael Happy Some members of today s crew. No heat no power no running water no matter. Neither the primitive like conditions inside the old Holy Name gym auditorium nor the snow Continued More blogs More in Elections Levin Mail in caucus weighed McCain focuses on keeping visible Florida s Nelson sees vote by mail as option to solve delegate mess Obama defeats Clinton in Wyoming caucuses Democrat wins former House Speaker s seat Levin says do over unlikely for Dems Obama aide ousted called Clinton monster Extras Oregon s model Michigan key players are studying mail in voting in Oregon where voters decided in to conduct all elections by mail. Ballots are mailed about two weeks before each election to registered voters. Voters mark preferences sign the ball! ot put it in a secrecy envelope put first class postage on it and send it to the county elections office. Ballots received by p.m. on Election Day are counted. They can also be dropped off. Ballot counting starts on Election Day but early results cannot be announced before p.m. that night. Voters decisions are secret. However it is public record whether a voter has delivered the mail in vote. Source Oregon government. Floridian Mail in could work U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson D Fla. laid out how mail in voting could work in Florida so a million revote could take place and Florida delegates be seated. It s a helpful outline for Michigan which faces a tougher task because it doesn t have party ID You mail a ballot to every registered Democrat in the state of Florida. You do it ahead of time so it can get overseas and then the apparatus of the state government counts the votes. They confirm the signatures just like an absentee ballot on the envelope. Source Interview today on Face the! Nation. Related Articles More reports Letters Should Mich. Democrats hold another vote More on this topic McCain focuses on keeping visible Letters Should Mich. 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